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Feed Ezy Frozen Mysis

Seahorse Club
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Feed Ezy Frozen Mysis

Seahorse Club
Aquarium & Livestock

Feed Ezy Frozen Mysis

Seahorse Club
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Feed Ezy Frozen Mysis

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Feed Ezy Frozen Mysis

Female H. Kuda with health issues

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    emjey
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    Hi, I am new to this community and to caring for seahorses.  I have two h.kuda’s one male and one female.  The male is very active and eats frozen mysis with no issues. My female from the day we brought her home has given us a hard time with just about everything (they were brought home at different times).  When we first brought her home about 3 weeks ago she did not eat the frozen mysis at all so we became worried. My bf noticed that she seemed to be scratching on our live rock so we gave her a fresh water dip and then a dip in some methylene blue.  She seemed fine after that but she still would not eat the frozen mysis.  After a couple days we noticed her hunting on our rocks as we have copepods and amphipods in our tank so we figured she only eats live food and decided to make sure we maintain a healthy amount of live food for her.  About a week ago we started to slowly transferring our small 10 gallon reef tank to a cycled 50 gallon tank.  We hadn’t even got to transferring the seahorses yet as we were taking it slow when we noticed the female was staying at the bottom of the tank (which turned into laying at the bottom of the tank). We gave her a couple days and noticed it wasnt getting better so after moving everyone else over we decided to buy a new stock of tiger pods and insert them into the tank to see if she was still eating but we didn’t notice her eat at all.  We then researched and thought she may have intestinal parasites as we have seen what we believe maybe stringy white fecal matter.  We purchased API’s General Cure and are currently treating her in 10 gallon hospital tank with perfect water levels (we had it checked at the local aquarium store).  So last night i noticed that her abdomen looked larger than normal and she is still at the bottom of the tank not moving very much but still breathing (sometimes it seems like heavy breathing and other times not so much).  I am completely baffled as to what is wrong with her.  She still has 2 days left of treatment so maybe it will resolve but the fact that her belly has grown is alarming to me.  

    I have clicked around many different forums looking for someone who may have had the same issue but its usually the male kuda that has the problem and it is surrounding its pouch.  Help is definitely needed. Thanks.

    #5868
    emjey
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    I just got in from work and things aren’t looking good for my female seahorse… she cant even move on her own anymore either she is too weak or too heavy (as she has a bloated abdomen) or a combination of the two.  She is still breathing and putting up a fight but I don’t want her to lose. Suggestions???

    #5869
    Pete Giwojna
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    Dear emjey:

    I’m very sorry to hear about the problem that your female Hippocampus kuda is having. In a well-fed seahorse, white stringy mucoid feces can indeed be an indication of intestinal parasites. However, if the seahorse is off its feed, then the white stringy feces may simply indicate that the seahorse is not getting enough to eat. When it’s gut is empty, there is little else for it to eliminate but intestinal mucus, which leaves any fecal matter that is produced white and stringy as a result…

    So it’s very difficult to say what may be ailing your female seahorse, emjey. One thing that does occur to me is the possibility that the female kuda may have become egg bound. Egg binding is uncommon in seahorses, but lethargy, labored breathing, a loss of appetite, and a swollen abdomen in a female can all be indication of egg binding.

    This is what I usually advise home hobbyists with regard to egg binding, emjey:

    The only time we normally see a female seahorse with a distended abdomen is immediately after she has hydrated or ripened a clutch of eggs prior to mating, as discussed below.

    Seahorses are fractional spawners and very well adapted for producing clutch after clutch of eggs. Females maintain a spiraling assembly line of developing oocytes (egg cells) at all times, only a portion of which are fully mature and are released at each mating (Vincent, 1990). This differs from the reproductive strategy of most fishes, which are multiple spawners that release all their eggs each time they mate and then start over, maturing an entirely new clutch of eggs from scratch for the next spawning.

    The structure of the ovaries is unique in syngnathids. They are paired organs, which join to form a single oviduct (the seahorse’s version of a Fallopian tube) just before the urogential pore (Vincent, 1990). Oocytes spiral out from the center of each ovary, creating a coiled sheet of developing eggs at differing stages of growth (Vincent, 1990). The earliest or primordial eggs arise from the germinal ridge that runs the entire length of the ovary, and lie at the center of the coil from which they spiral out as they develop so that the fully mature eggs are the furthest from the center of rotation (Vincent, 1990). Roughly 20-25% of the outermost eggs in this ovarian assembly line are mature, ready to be discharged during ovulation and deposited with the male (Vincent, 1990). Thus, fully 70-75% of the female’s developing eggs are retained in the ovaries after mating, so a new clutch of eggs will mature relatively quickly and lie in readiness for the next mating cycle.

    Seahorse ovaries are always active, busy creating and developing new eggs (oogenesis), forming the yolk (vitellogenesis), and resorbing any mature ova (atresia) leftover after mating or at the end of the breeding season (Vincent, 1990). Eggs in all 4 stages of development can be found in the ovaries throughout the year.

    The mature ova are normally hydrated in the latter stages of courtship, shortly before the copulatory rise and transfer of the eggs that culminates the mating process in seahorses. So it would be unusual for a female to retain hydrated eggs for more than a day or so — ordinarily, if a receptive male is not available to receive the eggs, the female will simply eject them and unceremoniously dump her clutch of eggs on the bottom of the tank.

    More information regarding egg binding and a possible treatment for the condition are discussed in the following excerpt from my new book (Complete Guide to the Greater Seahorses in the Aquarium, unpublished):

    Egg Binding: a Health Risk for Breeding Females.

    Egg binding occurs when a female has ripened (hydrated) a clutch of eggs and is unable to deposit them with a mate or release them for some reason. As more eggs develop, the egg bound female becomes increasing bloated and great pressure begins to build up internally. The abdomen will be very swollen, especially around the vent, and often prolapsed tissue or other material will begin to protrude from the vent as the pressure builds. The affected female will show rapid respiration and may go off her feed. If the pressure cannot be relieved, death results.

    Tracy Warland describes a typical case in a female Potbelly (Hippocampus abdominalis) as follows:

    Went into the shed one morning to find an adult mare, probably fully mature, in distress. She had been living quite happily in the main tank with about 10 males to meet any desire she might have. Anyway she was lying on the bottom of the tank, panting. I removed her immediately and placed her in sick tank, thought it could be parasites so gave her several 5-minute freshwater baths, but these did not seem to help. I had checked all parameters of large tank the day before so I knew the water was pristine, no other horse was stressed.

    When I was putting her back after a freshwater bath, I was supporting her upright for a few minutes to see if she could hitch somewhere. I applied very slight pressure to her belly, and out shot masses of orange stuff. I collected some and checked under the microscope and it looked very much like roe, but the yolk was almost smashed, with globules of a fat-like substance within the centre. We’ve had roe before, due to unsuccessful egg transfer, so we picked up some of bottom of tank and checked it out! I put it down to women’s problems, egg bound, could not discharge unfertilized eggs, these became rotten within her and therefore caused perhaps fever like symptoms.

    Egg binding is uncommon in seahorses. Most females have no problem simply dumping their eggs and spilling them on the bottom when a receptive male is unavailable. But there are two circumstances that sometimes promote egg binding. One of them is when breeding seahorses are kept in a tank that’s too shallow. Courtship will proceed normally and the female will hydrate her clutch of eggs in due course, but the pair will then be unable to complete the copulatory rise due to the lack of depth. In such a situation, the female is very reluctant too dump her eggs while a receptive male is standing by, eager to receive them. If she retains the ripened eggs too long in hope that they will be able to complete the egg transfer despite the inadequate vertical swimming space, she may become egg bound.

    The other situation that may predispose females to egg binding is when the sexes are segregated. For example, Heather Hall reports that the London Zoo was so successful in breeding and raising the prolific Cape Seahorse (Hippocampus capensis) that, at one point, they were obliged to separate the males and females in order to bring a halt to the population explosion that resulted (Bull and Mitchell, 2002, p 30). However, they were soon forced to abandon their experiment in enforced abstinence because it proved stressful to the seahorses and a few of the isolated females began developing swollen abdomens and experiencing difficulty with egg binding when deprived of the opportunity to breed (Bull and Mitchell, 2002, p 30).

    There is no ready cure for egg binding and attempts to manually massage the eggs from the body usually only result in internal injuries. However, there is a folk remedy that’s commonly used to treat egg binding in freshwater fish. This treatment consists of placing the affected fish in a bath of Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) for 10-15 minutes at a dosage of one tablespoon of Epsom salt for every one-gallon of water (Duedall, 2004). The Epsom baths are repeated once a day until the patient recovers (Duedall, 2004).

    I have no idea if this remedy would have any effect on a marine fish (doubtful, to say the least), but many freshwater hobbyists swear by it, and egg binding is fatal if unresolved so you really have nothing to lose by trying it. Epsom salts are certainly inexpensive and readily available. If you want to give it a go, I suggest administering a 10-15 minute freshwater bath with one tablespoon of magnesium sulfate per gallon added to the bath water. Mix in the magnesium salts, thoroughly, aerate the container, and observe the usual precautions for any freshwater dip. Repeat once daily as needed.

    As always, prevention is the best cure. If you provide your seahorses with a reasonably tall aquarium and avoid separating the males from the females, there is a very good chance you will never see a case of egg binding.

    Okay, that’s the rundown on egg binding in seahorses, emjey. In short, if your female’s abdomen appears swollen, particularly around the area of the vent, then there is a chance that she may be egg bound. As we have discussed, there’s not really much that one can do to resolve such a problem, but it would be a good idea to keep the struggling female separated from the other seahorses because she may develop other health problems or infections in her weakened condition, or become susceptible to parasites, and you do not want any such issues to affect the rest of your ponies.

    Good luck resolving this problem.

    Respectfully,
    Pete Giwojna, Ocean Rider Tech-Support

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