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February 16, 2006 at 12:35 am #740gwynspekesMember
Hi! I have a 30 gallon tank for seahorses and am feeding PE mysis shrimp with vibrance II. The problem that I have is the oil in the PE is driving my protein skimmer nuts……(lots of bubbles then I must turn it off.) Any suggestions?February 16, 2006 at 5:31 am #2300LeslieGuest
Try rinsing the mysis first. The skimmer will still bubbble more but you should not have to turn it off.
LeslieFebruary 17, 2006 at 6:08 pm #2302Pete GiwojnaGuest
As you know, Vibrance-enriched Mysis relicta from Piscine Energetics constitutes a superb diet that meets all the nutritional requirements for the long-term health and well-being of your seahorses. The fatty acid profiles of Mysis relicta are much higher than that of enriched brine shrimp and it has more than three times the fatty acid content of ocean krill. These high levels of fatty acids not only provide seahorses with essential nutrition, but also stimulate a positive feeding response. Mysis relicta are high in protein and high in animal fat, yet are sodium free. The lack of salt intake is desirable for marine fishes, which are constantly working to expel salt from their bodies.
One big reason for the outstanding nutritional profile of this shrimp is Mysis relicta’s highly diversified eating habits. The food chain in the deep, cold waters that this species prefers gives it extremely high levels of EPA and DHA (fatty acids), which are not only important for the nutrition they provide, but also act as natural appetite stimulants, triggering a positive feeding response in seahorses
However, the high fatty acid content of PE Mysis that makes them so beneficial also means they are rich in oils, and one side affects of those oils is that they dramatically reduce the surface tension of the water, which sometimes causes protein skimmers to go nuts and overflow with copious amounts of wet foam, just as you noted, Gwyn. This is a temporary effect and the foam production from the skimmer will return to normal shortly afterwards.
Adjusting the way that you prepare and feed the enriched Mysis can minimize this effect so that you don’t need to turn off your skimmer at feeding time, and the many advantages of this fabulous food far outweigh this slight drawback, so don’t change this diet, Gwyn, just tweak the way you are preparing it a little. Here are some tips on finding and enriching PE Mysis that may be helpful in that regard.
(1) Tips for thawing and enriching frozen Mysis.
In order to prevent wastage and obtain the maximum benefit from this superb food, it must be thawed properly. This is especially important because once the Mysis are fully thawed, they are not refreezable (Adib, 2004). Most hobbyists tend to simply thaw their mysids in aquarium water, which has the virtue of thawing it quickly but is not the best approach. The faster the frozen shrimp is thawed, the more likely it is to be damaged in the process. We want the mysids to remain intact and lifelike; we don’t want the tissue of the Mysis to begin to breakdown in the process of freezing/thawing. The goal is to preserve the Mysis and retain all those precious shrimp juices when we thaw it, not to release their fluids into the aquarium water where it will only degrade the water quality and do your seahorses no good!
So don’t thaw frozen Mysis in 75-80 F aquarium water. Don’t nuke it in the microwave to defrost it! And don’t simply toss a chunk of frozen Mysis in your tank and let it float around until it thaws and releases individual mysids!
Nor should you thaw it in tap water, distilled water, or any other source of freshwater. You want to thaw the shrimp in water that is about as salty as their own bodily fluids so there is little or no difference in osmotic pressure. Freshwater will tend to move into the mysids as they thaw and can break down their integument and rupture cell walls as they swell; excessively salty water will tend to draw water out of the Mysis as they thaw, desiccating them in the process. Normal strength seawater is just right for thawing.
So the recommended method for thawing frozen Mysis is to use refrigerated saltwater from your aquarium. Keep a small jug of your artificial saltwater in your refrigerator and reserve this for thawing your mysids (Adib, 2004). Place a couple of ounces of the chilled saltwater in a small cup or similar receptacle and use that to thaw the shrimp. Break off a small chunk from the mass of frozen Mysis — just enough for one feeding or a day’s worth at most (with experience, you will soon learn exactly how much to use) — place it in the cup of saltwater and allow the Mysis to slowly thaw in the refrigerator for 30-45 minutes (Adib, 2004). Then take the cup out of the refrigerator and allow the thawed Mysis to warm up at room temperate for another 15 minutes (Adib, 2004). This method leaves the mysids perfectly intact and lifelike, and produces immaculate shrimp that need no further rinsing. (If you use another method for thawing the Mysis, it’s generally advisable to rinse the thawed shrimp in a brine shrimp net to prevent clouding of the water.) You are now ready to fortify the Mysis with the enrichment formula of your choice.
Carefully remove the individual thawed mysids from the thawing container using a plastic fork or a toothpick and gently deposit them in the bowl of a plastic spoon. The idea is to handle the shrimp as little as possible during the thawing and enriching process, since rough handling can cause the mysids to break apart. If your enrichment product is in powder form (which I recommend), take a pinch of the formula, sprinkle it on the Mysis, and mix it in very gently (a plastic knife or similar instrument works well for this step). The orange power will adhere to the moist Mysis, and when you’re done, the head region (cephalothorax) of the mysids should be stained reddish. (If your preferred supplement is a liquid formula, just add a few drops to the Mysis and let it soak in.)
With a little practice, most hobbyists quickly work out their own technique for preparing enriched Mysis. The method outlined above works well for me and many other aquarists, but there are many other ways of defrosting and enriching the Mysis that work equally well. For instance, other hobbyists prefer to add a dusting of enrichment powder (or a few drops of a liquid supplement) to a chunk of frozen Mysis and gently mix it in (or allow it to soak in) as it thaws. One nifty way to do this is to break off my little chunk of frozen shrimp and place it on a square of wax paper, allow it a while to defrost, and then add a pinch of enrichment formula and roll the Mysis and power in the wax paper as though making a cigarette. This technique is trickier and takes a little experience before you can pull it off properly. The thawing and rolling/mixing process must be done very, very carefully or you may crush some of the Mysis and lose a lot of shrimp juice while preparing it. As always, if you’re doing it right, the heads of the individual Mysis shrimp should end up stained red, which is a feeding "trigger" captive-bred chowhounds find hard to resist. With a little practice, you will soon refine your own method for preparing frozen Mysis that works the best for your schedule and the needs of your herd.
But however you prepare it, it’s important to keep the enriched Mysis refrigerated until it’s used, and to use all the Mysis you thawed and enriched within 24 hours. For best results, the enriched Mysis should be used immediately after it’s prepared. Whether it’s been refrigerated or not, avoid using thawed and prepared Mysis that is 2 or 3 days old. We don’t want to offer our seahorses food that might have become laden with bacteria.
If you thaw the Mysis properly so that it remains intact, that will reduce the amount oils that it teaches into the water. If you then rinse off the thawed Mysis before you enrich it, it will further minimize the amount of excess oils it releases. Finally, if you target feed the enriched Mysis one by one to your seahorses at feeding time, rather than scatter feeding or broadcast feeding, that will also help decrease the the wastage and thus the amount of excess skimmate your protein skimmer puts out at feeding time. All of which should allow you to keep your skimmer running after meals, reducing the amount and duration of the excess foam production to very manageable proportions.
Best of luck with your seahorses, Gwyn!
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