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September 13, 2009 at 7:16 am #1741emeraldfire2004Member
Thank-You for your quick response! Like I said I am A REAL NEWBIE! I am a little overwelmed and scared. I read your advice but I do not know where to obtain the items. Also I do nothave a hospital tank. I have the one seahorse tank and a Saltwater tank 24 gallon Nano with fish and corals. Could you please help expalin this cure and where I can find the items. I live Lexington Park Maryland, we only have PetCo and Corner Critters, where I purchased my seahorses. His tail is a little white at the very bottom tip. PLease I don’t want anything to happen to him!September 13, 2009 at 8:16 am #4947Pete GiwojnaGuest
You’re very welcome to any and all the help I can provide!
Yes, I realize you’re very new to all of this and that’s one of the reasons that I recommended those particular medications — formalin, methylene blue, and Furan2 are medications that are commonly available for aquarium use from any well-stocked pet shop or fish store. I would suggest telephoning your local Petco as well as Corner Critters and asking them if they carry a brand of formalin and a brand of methylene blue (chances are good that one of them will). Then ask them specifically about the Furan2, but don’t just mention Furan2 since this medication goes by a number of different brand names, such as Furanase, Nitrofuracin Green, Binox, BiFuran+, FuraMS, Furazolidone Powder. So give them a whole list of brand names and ask them if they carry any of those.
If not, if you are unable to obtain any of these medications locally, do an Internet search for them (Google, etc.) and you’ll find thousands of places that sell them online. In that case, I believe Kordon’s Formalin 3 and Kordon Methylene Blue are the best brand names for those particular products. It’s going to take a while for the medications to arrive through the mail, unfortunately, but in your case that may be unavoidable, Liz.
If you have to order the medications through the mail, then you can try treating the tip of his tail topically using antibiotic salve that you can obtain from your local drugstore. For example, Liz, good old Neosporin would be an excellent choice for this purpose. Here are the instructions for using it to treat the tail of your seahorse, once again courtesy of Ann at the org:
NEOSPORIN Dosage and Preparation Instructions for Topical Application
Active Ingredient: Neomycin Sulfate
Indication: open external lesions.
Brandnames: Neosporin and generic triple antibiotic ointments are available at pharmacies and discount
Note: Please do NOT use ointments that list Pramoxine HCl or other pain relievers in their ingredients.
• If the lesion is on the body, hold the head underwater and gently apply the ointment with a cotton swab.
Try not to disturb the wound with the applicator.
• A thin coating is enough.
• Apply twice per day .
Note: Do not use ointments that list Pramoxine HCl or other pain relievers in their ingredients
Hopefully, treating the tail by coating it with a thin layer of Neosporin twice daily will buy you enough time for the medications to arrive through the mail, if you have to go that route, Liz.
Once you do obtain the formalin, methylene blue, and Furan2, just use them as explained in my previous post and I’m sure you’ll do just fine.
If you do not have a hospital tank set up at this time, Liz, you can improvise one using a clean plastic bucket, as explained below:
Hospital Ward Or Quarantine Tank
A bare-bottomed aquarium with plenty of hitching posts will suffice for a hospital ward or Quarantine Tank (QT). Ideally, the hospital tank should have one or more foam filters for biofiltration along with a small external filter, which can easily be removed from the tank during treatment but which can hold activated carbon or polyfilter pads when it’s time to pull the meds out. It’s important for the hospital ward to include enough hitching posts so that the seahorse won’t feel vulnerable or exposed during treatment. Aquarium safe, inert plastic plants or homemade hitching posts fashioned from polypropylene rope or twine that has been unraveled and anchored at one end are excellent for a hospital tank. No aquarium reflector is necessary. Ambient room light will suffice. (Bright lights can breakdown and inactivate certain medications and seahorses are more comfortable and feel more secure under relatively dim lighting.)
So just a bare tank with hitching posts is all you need for your hospital ward. No heater. No reflector. No lights. No substrate. You can even do without the sponge filters or external filter in your case, just adding a couple of airstones to provide surface agitation and oxygenation. That’s it.
In a pinch, a clean 5-gallon plastic bucket (new and unused, NOT an old scrub bucket!) can serve as a makeshift hospital tank. It should be aerated and equipped with hitching posts and perhaps a heater, but nothing else. This makes a useful substitute when the Quarantine Tank is occupied or in use and a seahorse needs treatment.
Stay on top of water quality in the hospital tank/bucket with water changes as often as needed during treatment, and and when you are treating the occupants for a health problem, re-dose with the medication(s) according to directions after each water change
Finally, Liz, I would also like to invite you to participate in Ocean Rider’s training program for new seahorse keepers. It’s designed specifically for newbies like you and should prove to be very helpful in the long run. As you know, Liz, I am a moderator for this discussion forum and I also provide tech-support for Ocean Rider (seahorse.com). Part of my duties in that regard include providing a quick training course for new Ocean Rider customers and first-time buyers to get them up to speed on the aquarium care and requirements of seahorses.
The purpose of this training is twofold: (1) to assure that the hobbyist has a suitable aquarium, completely cycled and with the biofiltration fully established, ready and waiting when his seahorses arrive, and (2) to assure that the hobbyist has a good understanding of the aquarium care and requirements of Ocean Rider seahorses by the time he or she has completed the training and been certified. All of which will help to ensure that things go smoothly and that your first experience with Ocean Rider seahorses is rewarding and enjoyable.
This basic training is very informal and completely free of charge, Liz. Ocean Rider provides the free training as a service to their customers and any other hobbyists who are interested in learning more about the care and keeping of seahorses. It’s a crash course on seahorse keeping consisting of 10 separate lessons covering the following subjects, and is conducted entirely via e-mail. All totaled, the lessons comprise over 180 pages of text with more than 100 full-color illustrations. There is no homework or examinations or anything of that nature — just a lot of good, solid information on seahorses for you to read through and absorb as best you can, at your own speed:
Aquarium care and requirements of seahorses;
Selecting a suitable aquarium for seahorses;
size (tank height and water volume)
aquarium test kits
Optimizing your aquarium for seahorses;
water movement and circulation
hitching posts (real and artificial)
Cycling a new marine aquarium;
The cleanup crew (aquarium janitors & sanitation engineers);
water quality & water changes
aquarium maintenance schedule
Compatible tank mates for seahorses;
Courtship and breeding;
Rearing the young;
Disease prevention and control;
professional rearing protocols
Acclimating Ocean Rider seahorses.
If you’re interested, Liz, I will be providing you with detailed information on these subjects and answering any questions you may have about the material I present. I will also be recommending seahorse-related articles for you to read and absorb online.
In short, the training course will teach you everything you need to know to keep your seahorses happy and healthy, and it will arm you with the information you need in order to tackle your first ponies with confidence.
How long this training will take to complete depends on your experience level as an aquarist to a large extent. For example, if you have never kept seahorses before and you do not already have a suitable saltwater aquarium up and running, it will take at least eight weeks for your training and preparations to be completed before you can be certified. It will take that long to learn the basics of seahorse keeping, set up a suitable aquarium, cycle the tank from scratch to establish the biological filtration, and optimize the tank to create an ideal environment for seahorses. Only then can you be certified ready to receive your first seahorses.
On the other hand, experienced marine aquarists and hobbyists that have had seahorses before and already have a suitable saltwater aquarium up and running can be certified much more quickly. I will run through the same basic information with them, but most of the information I provide will be familiar material for such hobbyists and they should be able to review it and get up to speed quickly, plus they should have well-established aquariums ready, fully matured that they can fairly quickly adapt in order to make them more ideal for seahorses. In a case like that, certification can be completed as soon as they have absorbed the material I provide and are confident they have a good grasp of the specialized requirements and aquarium care of the seahorses.
So in order to get started, Liz, the first thing I need to know is how experienced you are with saltwater aquariums. Have you ever kept a marine aquarium before? If so, how long have you been involved with the saltwater aquarium hobby? Do you have one or more marine aquariums up and running at this time? If so, how long have the tanks been in operation?
Do you have an aquarium up and running at this time that you intend to use as a seahorse tank? If so, can you please describe the aquarium system you will be using for your seahorse tank? How large is the aquarium (length, width, and height)? What kind of filtration equipment is installed and running on the aquarium? What type of lighting system does the tank you? How long has the proposed seahorse tank been up and running? Please list all of the current inhabitants of the aquarium you will be using as your seahorse tank, if any.
If not, if you don’t have an aquarium for your seahorses as of yet, that’s just fine. I will be providing you with lots of recommendations and options in that regard so that you can pick out a tank that is just right for your needs and interests. And I will be working with you personally every step of the way until your new aquarium is ready for seahorses and you are well prepared to give them the best of care, regardless of how long that may take.
If you would like to give the training program a try, please get back to me as soon as possible with the information requested above, Liz, and we will get started with your training right away. Just send me a quick note with your first and last name, which I need for our records, and we’ll get you up to speed in no time.
Pete GiwojnaSeptember 13, 2009 at 9:38 am #4948emeraldfire2004Guest
I would very much like to participate in the training program. I have had a saltwater tank for 12 years. Started out with a 12 gallon Nano Tank with a paired set of pisco clown fish, bubble tip, mushroom, and several other live coral, snails, hermit crabs. After having my Nano tank for 4 year I sold it, and purchased a 24 gallon, which I still have. My clowns died after nine years, still have:
Cardinal he has to be at least 12 years old, orange skunk clown, and a new small Bengal Cardinal, Serpent Star (3yrs), 4 emerald crabs(6years) Torch Coral (4 yrs) Leather coral (4 yrs) Mushroom (3 yr) and quite a lot of green star polyp, Blue mushrooms, sun pulps and a orange and Blue Montiporia. I had a Mandarin Goby who lived for a year.
I really love the saltwater aquariums, and try to read every thing about how to maintain a good life quality for my sea family.
I was a the pet store "Corner Critters" and saw the tank raised Sea horses (3). I had an established 10 gallon tank that I had some corals and live rock and ask if it would be a good tank for my sea horses. I purchased the horses, there feeding stands and several artificial plants for them to latch onto. They seemed really happy were eating and waiting to be fed. I was looking on line for some live plants for them, when I found your site.
Than then the accident.
I am 54, married. My children are married. I have three grand children. I have 3 dogs, rescued greyhound (7) Windy. Miniature doxie namedScooter, 2 yrs and Bentley 1 miniature Pomerania.
My aquariums bring me gre at entainment, I would rather watch my fish than sit in front of a TV set. Some of my friends/husband think I am a little wacked when I get upset about losing one of my fish. To me they are much more tahn just fish!
Thank-you again for all your help. I contacted my pet store; they are looking for the medicines.
emeraldfireSeptember 13, 2009 at 10:23 pm #4949Pete GiwojnaGuest
Excellent! It’s good to hear that you have so much experience as a marine aquarist, Liz, and your knowledge in that regard will serve you well when keeping seahorses. You are obviously a very conscientious and diligent aquarist as well, since you have been successful in maintaining many of your fish and invertebrates for extended periods of time. In fact, some of your marine fish have enjoyed longer lifespans in your aquarium than they would have experienced in the wild, such as your clownfish and cardinalfish. Well done!
I will be more than happy to get you started on the seahorse training program, Liz, and once we get you up to speed on the aquarium care and requirements of seahorses, I’m sure you’ll enjoy equal success with your ponies. As I mentioned in my previous post, the seahorse training program is a correspondence course that’s conducted entirely via e-mail, so if you’ll just e-mail me with a brief note off list ([email protected]), I will reply and send you the first lesson immediately.
Yes, I know just what you mean about how entertaining aquariums can be — I too would rather watch the "seahorse channel" in my fishroom than most any of the programs airing on television.
Best wishes with all your fishes and other pets, Liz!
Pete GiwojnaSeptember 28, 2009 at 2:49 am #4959emeraldfire2004Guest
Sorry to report the little guy died last Friday. I thought he was doing better he ate a few bites, but I found him on the bottomof the tank.
The other two seahorses appear fine, the are eating and swim around the tank.
I will e-mail you with the answers to all youu questions.
LizSeptember 29, 2009 at 8:21 pm #4960Pete GiwojnaGuest
I’m very sorry to hear that the little seahorse with the damaged tail was unable to recover from his injury. Please accept all of my condolences on your loss!
Most likely he died because a secondary infection set in at the site of his tail injury. The most distal portions of the seahorse’s tail are prone to infection because there is poor blood circulation and low oxygen tension at the tip of the tail, so even superficial injuries to the tail often become infected. If the seahorse does not receive prompt treatment with a broad-spectrum antibiotic, the infection can spread to the bloodstream of the seahorse and become systemic, resulting in death from septicemia.
In that event, the chances are very good that the remaining seahorses will remain unaffected since secondary infections are not normally contagious, and I will be very happy to get you started out with the seahorse training program immediately to help assure that the other to seahorses continue to thrive.
Best of luck with the rest of the seahorses, Liz.
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